Im not his biggest fan, but......

Brain praises him week after week and gave him a two year extension.

Makes me wonder ..... Kirke must be playing to instruction cos you would hope that if he wasnt and he was playing like he is he would be getting a rocket under him.

This does of course raise questions around what Brain is asking his players to do, but thats a whole different debate.

I like Kirke. There. I said it.

Was that just "cake" in a Hull accent?

I like 'Kirke' too, in that case.

If you meant Ian Kirke, then I welcome this thread, for there are too few threads about Ian Kirke on htis forum.

Can I request another about Sam Tomkins being a rude young man too please?

Dont feel you have to post if you dont think you can contribute and are too Kirked out. Really, its fine. I wont be hurt. Jeez.

What else am I going to do? Work?

I think when Sinnie hangs up his boots Kirke should be Captain.

It kinda has a ring to it. Captain Kirke.

Fair point well made.

We should send him off on the starship enterprise

... To boldly go where no man has gone before
With no other man to compare him to it wouldn't be noticed how bluddy useless he was.

Personally I can see he's limited, and his workrate in attack leaves a lot to be desired.

However, I think the criticism he gets on here is unjustified (or should that be that it should be directed elsewhere first)

you got it bang on there RR

He definately has my vote Captain Kirke Can boldly go backwards everytime he gets the ball

Kirke stepped up in the final when other forwards with bigger reputations didn't perform e.g. Leuluai.

It seems he is only capable of putting in a big tackling stint OR making yardage and using his size. I wonder how much he is following the orders of the coaching staff on this? If he did both at the same time he really would be good value in the 17.

I think the criticism, on the whole, has been justified, although if every player was scrutinised in the same way then there would be some uncomfortable truths for some posters. I used to think Kirke offered value for money when we first signed him - now I am less sure, but his CC final contribution might point to better times ahead once he gets used to being a prop. Calling him 'Shirk' and a coward is way OTT though.

For the OP, please stop calling our coach 'Brain', unless it is tongue in cheek...

My tongue is firmly in my cheek.